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Is the tribal mindset that evolution led to needed for this society? Most humans as a whole are very tribal in the way they act. An extreme example of this are the terrorists, which basically say, "If you're not like us, we kill you". My dad also read a book called "The Social Construct of Reality", which pointed out how if there's a group of people that believe or act the same way, it becomes reality. For example, if you ran into a tribe that wore underwear on their heads, that would be considered the "normal" thing there, and you would be considered weird for having underwear where it's supposed to be.
does evolution favor a left or right mindset? it seems to me, unfortunately, that evolution is seriously favoring collectivism among humans and not individualism. on the other hand, i still see much evidence for tribalism out there...what say you?
Anyone feel as if the atheist’s faith in the tenets of evolution mirrors the mindset of medieval Catholics? I’ve been monitoring the Yahoo Answers atheist community for a couple of days now, and it seems their most common response to anyone who refutes evolution is, “You must be an ignorant fundamentalist for questioning my superior scientific understanding. You’re better off dead for not seeing the logic of it all.” The cell is not what we once thought it to be. Why not “evolve” our scientific approach? By the way, I don’t believe in creationism for those hankering to call me an “ignorant Christian.” I see the reasoning and merit of today’s scientific theories and tend to agree with them. I just feel we will continue to learn more down the line and it’s best to keep an open mind. I apologize in advance if I insulted more moderate atheists who are sick and tired of people cramming salvation down their throats. I just don’t see the need for everyone to be so self-assured of their positions when history has shown us over and over again that we know jack. As I said, “I tend to agree” with today’s scientific thinking. And for those who say evolution is evidence, not faith. I say true, but thinking anything or anyone is correct requires faith. Even if it’s faith in the evidence. Viva Liberty, thank you, you alone seemed to capture the spirit of the question. Pull my finger, right on R T, great answer To Beau.Gus and Interior Castle, thank you for proving my point. Angry much are we. It's Ok, I'm sure your mothers love you.
Evolution and the Christian mindset? Many people misunderstand Darwin's theory of evolution and think it means that all the life on this earth evolved from amoebas and tiny bacterium over the course of millions of years... it really doesn't say that humans evolved from monkeys at all. The fact that 400 years ago, a 5'5 person was considered very tall and today I stand at a pretty average height among most of my male peers at 6'2 is evidence that we have definitely evolved since then. Anyone who wants to take the Bible literally MUST accept the theory of evolution because if you're sure that Adam took only 2 horses onto the ark... natural selection is the only way to explain why we have colts and mustangs and palomars and a hundred different varieties of work, show, and race horses today. In fact, horse/cat/dog breeding is prime evidence of the truth of natural selection. My question is this.. why do you think evolution is heresy - if you do - and if you don't, why do you think it is so hard for Christians to accept?
What kind of evolution of our mindset would it take to unite into one country called Israel/Palestine? We could change the Israeli flag and add a Crucifix on one side of the Star of David and a Crescent Moon on the other. Would the economics of this new state be better or worse than it is now? The other Arab nations would have to acknowledge this new state and Iran would have no reason to hate the Jews anymore. There would be peace for the next 100 years. The Jews of course would lose the "majority", and that is what matters to them the most. But it has been 60 years of conflict and I don't see that the creation of an independent state for the Palestinians as manifesting itself into peace for the long-term. I'm kind of asking this question facetiously, but why couldn't we all live together? Hate by any group towards another is an affront to G-d, and since it is all the same G-d, this shouldn't be an issue either. Thanks in advance for you intelligent, informed answers.
Evolution has an answer for every question....how does religion compare to that? An example is if a war occurs and many people die--this is evolution acting as a way of progressing the species......if certain beings are atrracted to others of the same sex ...this is evolutions way of 'controlling' the population........when humans are narrow minded and will only listen to one mindset ...this is evolutions way of showing others how to progress... How does religion compare? Do you ever think that the amoeba ever dreamed that it would evolve into the frog? Of course it didn’t. And when that first frog shimmied out of the water and employed its vocal cords in order to attract a mate or retard a predator, do you think that frog ever imagined that that incipient croak would evolve into all the languages of the world, into all the literature of the world? Of course it f***ing didn’t. And just as that froggy could never possibly have imagined Shakespeare, So we can never possibly imagine our destiny.
Evolution vs. Creationism debate due tomorrow... help? I'm attempting to win in a debate against creationism... personally, i believe in creationism somewhat, but i have to have the mindset that i believe fully in evolution. Anybody know any site proving creationism wrong? i want to be able to ask the other side alot of questions that will stump them.
Has the evidence for evolution and an ancient earth ever made you question your faith as a christian? I am a christian who was once a Young Earth Creationist. After examining the evidence, I determined that the earth is not 6,000 years old and took on a theistic evolutionist view. In other words, I believe that God created us, but used evolution to do so. I believe that Genesis is an allegory, and is not literally accurate. I still believe that the bible is the word of God, and was inspired by same. But that doesn't make it a science book. My faith in the bible wasn't shaken at all. Don't respond with a plea to convince me of the literal creation story. I am very well versed with all of the creationist arguments, and they are simply bogus. What I want to know is if there are people out there who examined the evidence with an objective mindset, like I did, but found themselves losing a little faith in the bible because the literal creationists try so hard to convince everyone that the bible must be interpreted their way, meaning literally instead of figuratively. Why can't evolution and creation go together peacefully? Why does it have to be either/or for some people? And PLEASE be reminded, I AM NOT AN ATHEIST!!! I AM A CHRISTIAN!!! Those of you who wish to convince me of literal creation, go visit these two sites: http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/List_of_creationist_arguments and http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html. If you have an argument that is addressed on either of these sites, just keep it to yourself. I've already been there/done that. Victor ious... There are some things you should know about "Dr" Baugh. His credentials...http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/degrees.html His claims...http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC120.html, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/nbc.html, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/retrack.html, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/tooth.html, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/3/part2.html Fellow creationist opinions of "Dr" Baugh...http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/whatbau.html (CSF is in fellowship with many creationist groups around the world. We are part of a world-wide network of qualified scientists who are work ing to understand the evidence in the light of the biblical account. All the creationist scientists that we have spoken to regard Mr. Baugh's teaching as a serious embarrassment.) Victor ious, as for your accusations that I am a false christian, that is fine. I don't have to explain myself to you, and your judgement is not the one I have to worry about. The main point of Genesis is to explain who created everything, and why. Not how or when. You can doubt by sincerity all you wish. There are no hard feelings. My salvation doesn't revolve around a young earth or life appearing from nowhere out of magic like yours does. I am a sinner. I am repentant. I have accepted Jesus as my Savior. Please tell me what I am missing. I'm sorry, that last detail was meant for Flandargo. As for "Dr" Hovind... http://www.kent-hovind.com/ "Dr" Hovind has as much creibility with me as does "Dr" Baugh...Zero!!
How do I force myself to be objective? What are some prime objectivist literature? I have this almost Socratic mindset in which I really cannot believe in anything objective. Is snow white? Is evolution real? Do I even exist? What can convince me of absolutes? Please edify me. My current mindset tortures me to an almost clinical degree. Thanks in advance!
I accept evolution, but recently...? I have been doing some in-depth research and discovered that many of the devices I have identified with evolution that led me to a atheistic mindset have been found to be misleading, a fraud, or simply not true, i.e. 1.) Haeckel 2.) Archaeopteryx 3.) Java Man 4.) Experiment by Miller I don't want to believe in a Creator God, which in my study fits in with the evidence better as far as geology, astronomy, biology, etc. goes (and I discovered that it actually takes more faith to believe in evolution than in creation), however I am going crazy here! If someone cannot show me any evidence that evolution is viable, I will convert to creationism. But mutations are just sorting the information or even losing it, not adding any new information to the genes, so that goes against the whole concept of evolution. No one knows exactly what the atmosphere was like back then, if there was that many years, and Miller maybe didn't have the same atmosphere. You do not get amino acids, you get organic compounds, formaldehyde and cyanide. Those are not the right compounds to start life.
What is the explanation and source of this type of anti-evolution position among some Christians? The following is a very typical Christian post on R&S and I'm trying to imagine how someone could possibly reach this position: >"Because atheists usually clam that Darwinism supports their theories..but most of the scientists today oppose the evolution theory and thousands of books have been written against it." > Sometimes there are facetious posts of this sort but I believe this one is sincere. But it leaves me somewhat aghast and unable to explain the mindset. How could someone come to conclude that "most scientists oppose evolution" and "thousands of books have been written against it" when reality tells us otherwise? Isn't this kind of scary on various levels? I have never EVER heard an atheist attribute his atheism to Darwin -- and how COULD such a connection come about??? (Has anyone EVER heard this idea expressed on R&S?)
What do evolutionists say about the lies and falsified evidence that evolution scientists present as fact? There is undoubtedly no length that scientists will go to falsify their so called evidence for evolution. Therefore, why do people still trust and believe these liars? It is quite evident that they are trying to get you to believe something that is undoubtedly bogus and ridiculous. The following was posted by Micky GG. I take no credit for this awesome research. It gives us clear lies of evolution scientists fabricating finds and evidence. Evolution Fraud In an attempt to further their careers and justify the claims that evolution is a legitimate theory, many scientists have fraudulently deceived the world by planting or reconstructing fossils which they would claim to be authentic finds. The most widely published evolution fraud was committed in China in 1999, and published in the National Geographic. Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man: Found in a gravel pit in Sussex England in 1912, this fossil was considered by some sources to be the second most important fossil proving the evolution of man—until it was found to be a complete forgery 41 years later. The skull was found to be of modem age. The fragments had been chemically stained to give the appearance of age, and the teeth had been filed down! Nebraska man: A single tooth, discovered in Nebraska in 1922 grew an entire evolutionary link between man and monkey, until another identical tooth was found which was protruding from the jawbone of a wild pig. This fossil was part of the evidence entered to substantiate evolution in the famous "Scopes Monkey Trial" (source: Henry M. Morris & Gary E. Parker, What Is Creation Science?, [Master Books 1987], pp. 155-156) Java man; Initially discovered by Dutchman Eugene Dubois in 1891, all that was found of this claimed originator of humans was a skullcap, three teeth and a femur. The femur was found 50 feet away from the original skullcap a full year later. For almost 30 years Dubois downplayed the Wadjak skulls (two undoubtedly human skulls found very close to his "missing link"), (source: Hank Hanegraaff, The Face That Demonstrates The Farce Of Evolution, [Word Publishing, Nashville, 1998], pp.50-52) Orce man: Found in the southern Spanish town of Orce in 1982, and hailed as the oldest fossilized human remains ever found in Europe. One year later officials admitted the skull fragment was not human but probably came from a 4 month old donkey. Scientists had said the skull belonged to a 17 year old man who lived 900,000 to 1.6 million years ago, and even had very detail drawings done to represent what he would have looked like, (source: "Skull fragment may not be human", Knoxville News-Sentinel, 1983) Neanderthal: Still synonymous with brutishness, the first Neanderthal remains were found in France in 1908. Considered to be ignorant, ape-like, stooped and knuckle-dragging, much of the evidence now suggests that Neanderthal was just as human as us, and his stooped appearance was because of arthritis and rickets. Neanderthals are now recognized as skilled hunters, believers in an after-life, and even skilled surgeons, as seen in one skeleton whose withered right arm had been amputated above the elbow, (source: "Upgrading Neanderthal Man", Time Magazine, May 17,1971, Vol. 97, No. 20) And of course there is the famous - Lucy: Clearcut Case of Evolutionist Fraud !!! Lucy is the 40% more-or-less complete australopithicus skeleton which is commonly presented as a missing link of sorts, and the thought processes behind the manner in which reconstructions of lucy are presented indicates a mindset in which, at every juncture at which reality clashes with ideology, it is reality which simply gets tossed. Lucy's actual remains did not included hands or feet and reconstructions are commonly presented with human or near-human hands and feet despite the fact that other skeletons of the same creature have hands and feet which are clearly those of an ape, with curved fingers for moving about in trees. Mary Leakey in fact had found clear tracks of human footprints in the same strata and location as Lucy's remains and the assumption is that at least one australopithicus MUST have had human feet. Asked whether a better explanation would be that the tracks were simply produced by humans, Leakey and others replied that was impossible since the tracks were millions of years old. The obvious explanation of course is that a human made the footprints and "Lucy" was simply that human's pet monkey. The story actually gets better (much better) from there if you can believe that, with evolutionists claiming that a deer or other animal trampled "Lucy"'s hips and pelvis, breaking them into pieces, and that the pieces congealed by chances into the conformation of those of an ape, and deriving the true picture of Lucy's hips and pelvis by making a plaster cast, breaking it up with a saw, and then rearranging the pieces into a
Once again about evolution. A few questions please.? Well I have asked question about evolution and so on. Received a few good answers. Though they basically told me what evolution is and how it works. Which I had a pretty good idea of that already. But I was trying to get at. What makes matter make beings? Like how can I explain this....what entices matter(whatever the smallest of small is) to create. Is is like positive negatives this to that to make chains connecting to different chains....until it makes something that is a less complex life form such as bacteria and so on(need to work on explaining things :/ ). It is very interesting to me. Suppose I am taking shortcuts being on here asking questions. Is there any end game to evolution? Any insight to the purpose? Or to just make something that can survive, and exist. Which I couldn't imagine any reason higher than to exist. I see my questions as quite dumb, but I am just curious if there is something I am missing. Another question I pose is our common ancestor is with monkeys somewhere right? So I heard with prosimians are more or less our common ancestors or something. Which is that right? Though what I am trying to get at is that are we evolved from a group of animals that mainly rely on groups? Like a hierarchy? Because I find it that we are quite dependent as people. Like we automatically seek help with things as though we are too weak to be one. While I believe some have the capacity to take on feats, but it always seem that we already determined that we must be many to become one so that something may be accomplished. Which i'm not saying that's a bad thing. But seems like the mindset I see in people is one that can be easily manipulated by those who seek some sort of dominance. Just some random idea thing I got going on. Just a thought maybe industry, media, and other outlets have made us become this way. Once again people persist to be douche bags. No shit I don't know everything. I even said my questions are quite dumb. Once again I receive half ass answers because someone felt it was necessary to be a dick. Yeah maybe I can't explain myself as well because I don't really know. Ever thought of that? Would be a reason why I am asking questions. You may posses some knowledge but it seems to me that your an idiot. I ask for information yet you find it necessary to take shots at some stranger. Must be lonely in that head of yours. Thanks for trying though.
Why Can't God and Evolution live happily together? Just curious - no judgment at all here. I grew up in the deep south, home to the bible belt. Now i live in NYC, but i still have a good feel as to how people with a strong christian mindset think. I do not think christians are "uneducated" or "ignorant" because I grew up with so many of them. My question is: There are so many facts supporting Evolution, and in my opinion, the whole concept is so beautiful and perfect, it does a much better job of proving there is a God than the bible does. Why do so many christians shun the idea of evolution? what can't God and Evolution be one in the same? Why not embrace a truly amazing natural process as just one of God's miracles? Mar Bar the Candy Bar is Awesome!
Why associate the big bang with evolution with atheists? I have seen this alot on these boards: People using big bang theory interchangeably with evolution, atheist interchangeably with evolutionist. Is it really any one particular theory that the willful ignorant have a problem with or rather the whole mindset? They are obviously not interested with the science, (as one person I saw said that "evolution can only explain up to the big bang"), but more the politics. Do the rest of the world a favor, you with a strong sense of disagreement against established knowledge. Learn out theories, map them out, then maybe you can piece together a decent argument.
Does it really take mare "faith" to believe in evolution than in God? This is what a woman at my work contends. I think that, at least according to what I have read, a European would find this assertion silly, since Evolution is accepted there in the same way gravity and genetics are accepted. Isn't it interesting that, only in America, can people so easily dismiss facts in favor of their cherished myths? I suppose that mindset allows us to continually fight wars. After all, we are always right. So what do you think? Is evolution so wild that it requires faith to accept. Why does my dog get so many of the diseases I get? Why are apes and people so anatomically similar. God testing our faith?
I'm curious to know how many of us Bible-believing Christians here who started out as anti-evolution Young....? ....Earth Creationists moved to affirming an Old Earth viewpoint and to affirming the mechanisms of biological evolution -- once we quit restricting our reading to just the YEC authorities perhaps? And once we began reading/studying the Bible-believing Christian scholars who showed us that the Bible was not hostile to evolution nor to the idea of a 13+ billion year old universe, did that "clinch" our transformation? Was that the story for most of you who "changed sides" after being ardent YECs for years? WAS THIS YOUR EXPERIENCE? OR DID YOUR CHANGE OF MINDSET INVOLVE OTHER FACTORS? What do you think is the most common path for those who abandoned YEC views? =============================================================== =============================================================== {Remaining background is optional & unnecessary for answering main question.} =============================================================== OPTIONAL: Personal Experience in moving away from YEC anti-evolution beliefs For me my mastering Biblical Greek and Hebrew/Aramaic in grad school also played a big role -- although I found that even that can be of very little help if the professors don't have a good grounding in linguistics and the kinds of discoveries which have revolutionized Bible translation so that we are not unknowingly brainwashed by tradition. Even some people who have passable Greek/Hebrew skills never grow past silly Strong's Concordance definitions [rather than BDB or KB/HAL] and reasoning because they never got past the translation philosophies of pre-WWI scholarship. One can see a lot of that here on R&S, such as with the "YOM=24hr day because of YOM with an ordinal number" reasoning that got debunked long ago. In these sorts of argument many Christians actually side and quote from the anti-inspiration secularists who like to see the folly of 24-hour YOM days encouraged because it makes their attacks on the Bible much easier. I'm often amazed how many Christians fail to see that they are being used to extend a secular, anti-Bible agenda in this way. Yet, at the same time they complain that Christians who affirm evolution are incorporating "atheistic ideas" into their theology! Looking back, it seems that it the social factors as well as the unwarranted confusing of "social Darwinism" as a philosophy --- which is, indeed, a naive guide towards any kind of truth -- and the actual biological science related to the scientific theory of evolution. Many of my Christian friends even in my own church today still confuse "Darwinism" as a philosophy with the theory he helped define and set in motion as a long-term "evolving" theory and definition. BUT WHAT WAS YOUR STORY? WHAT CHANGED YOUR MIND? ================================================================= Obviously, if you never changed your viewpoint, this question doesn't apply to you and a rant against those who did serves little value -- unless you can perhaps tell us why you encountered the same spectrum of possible positions and can share reasons why you found them insufficient to change?
Christian fundamentalists: Are you willing to step up to the plate? . . . and proclaim your authoritarian mindset as the basis for your stance against evolution? The Bible, God's word, is your authority, is it not? And you believe that God's word suffices to explain the history and diversity of life. So what exactly is the central flaw of science? Is it that science is based on evidence rather than authority? Or is it an issue of incompetence? Maybe the tens of thousands of scientists who have labored for the past 150 years to understand evolution have all been too incompetent to correctly interpret the evidence they have gathered? What exactly is the problem? And if the scientists have been incompetent, do you have any way of knowing that other than the fact that their conclusions conflict with authority?
Evolution of superstition? Do you think this is an accurate diagram of a certain mindset? http://s918.photobucket.com/albums/ad22/yahooaddictkills/?action=view¤t=3084844235_0deca8840bjpg.jpg
Creationists: Do You Agree With This Statement of Faith? "No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record." Creationists, are you of a similar mindset? I suppose what I'm asking is, what would it take for you to accept an old earth, evolution, or other scientific concepts that creationism implicitly rejects?
Do Christians project their faith and irrational mindset onto atheists because they know they're wrong? I hear this all the time: atheists have just as much faith as Christians! I don't have enough faith to be an atheist! Why don't you admit you have faith and you worship thus-and-such! Um, no. Faith is what you do when you don't have proof of your beliefs. Atheism is a lack thereof, therefore faith does not enter into the equation. I think Christians realize their beliefs are groundless, whether they admit it to themselves or anyone else or not, and they try to pretend everyone else is worse than they are in that respect, but it's just not true. Also, for supporting evolution, Christians have accused me of worshiping the following things: Myself Darwin Humanity in general Evolution itself Science in general Money Monkeys Rocks The entire universe The liberal media Homosexuality And of course, Satan. Phoenix: utterly and absolutely wrong, atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. Not a belief that there is no god. That is antitheism, not atheism.
Science, Atheism, Evolution, Intolerance and Ignorance? If I'm of moderate intelligence and seek to align myself with seemingly much smarter people to give myself an ego boost and make myself appear smarter than I really am .. Isn't latching onto someone elses beliefs an easy excuse for not really having an opinion of your own .. Clearly people can't read anymore , it's just too tiring ..Haven't we all experienced someone trying desperately to regurgitate last nights pbs special about how the apostles were in fact the 12 constellations in the sky and how the archer points to the center of the universe And the mayans knew it 4000 years ago And built huge buildings that spelled out ..."SEE ..I told you so ". Isn't it possible that smart people have had their egos massaged from a very young age ,,,and have a very deep seated need to be continually seen as smart ..Anything that resembles superstitious ,miraculous or unprovable would need to be dismissed .or discounted . What do you think about people who say religion is brainwashing and yet dismiss Bill Maher,Richard Dawkins ,C.Hitchens or George Carlin who violently attack religion as being purely for the weak minded ..Scaring people into disbelief by insinuating you're an ignorant boob unless you adopt their mindset.. Aren't people adopting others opinions for all the wrong reasons ?
Atheists: Do you wonder if Evolution explains theism? Do you ever think that theism represents an evolutionary transition of the mind. Perhaps theists simply don't have the cognative capacity to think like others do. That is why they think with a far more primitive mindset. Obviously we can observe how the human mind has changed over our history. Wouldn't this explain why they tend to be far more violent and afraid? Kind of like how an animal is far more likely to attack when they are afraid? Do you think that as humans are evolving as a species they are becoming less and less afraid of the world around us and more accepting of our place in the universe. From an animalistic mentality to a much more progressive and civilized one? That is why we see such a surge of freethought and progressive thinking? Perhaps some theists simply just don't have the ability to comprehend certain things because they are an evolutionary step back so to speak. Your thoughts?
Don't fundies understand by rejecting evolution/big bang, they are rejecting those who we owe civilized life? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzdv2dsPPKw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuKoEYCs2o&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uephBmkupvQ There seems to be some mindset among evangelicals and fundamentalists that scientists are of no addition to society, and that they are hell-bent on destroying religion and that is all. What I hate the most is the whole 'I bleive in most of science, just not when it contradicts the bible, then I think they're making it up'... This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. BY very dfintion, science is not just 'guessing'. A sicentists job is to INVESTIGATE A PHENOMENON, AND HYPOTHESISE A RATIONAL CAUSE. THEN TEST THE HYPOTHESIS. NEVER to 'just guess'. These 'heathens' are responsible for instant worldwide communication, avionics, modern medicine, modern engineering etc. Preachers and faith healers have never done any such thing. Without scientists, you would most likely be dead from small pox or tooth decay. So don't you think that maybe, just MAAAYBEEE, they know what they're talking about? When was the last time your Bible-thumping, gay bashing, theocracy-supporting pastor sequenced a genome, for crying out loud! A scientist may believe in God, fair enough. That is, by very definition, untestable. But if he/she lets that groundless belief contradict the general consensus of those who have worked their whole lives, using the scientific method, to bring them tehir current understanding on the subject, then they are a fool and by no means a scientist. [/rant] Funny blog saying pretty much the same thing http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-OemzD3EyfqqBa_7wSs5njqCudVU-?cq=1 @John the Baptist. Close. Only a fool outright rejects their claims on the grounds of groundless faith. If they have an opposing hypothesis that they think explains the phenomenon more thoroughly, then they can go right ahead, as happened with Eintein's theory of gravity (whcih supplanted the long standing Newtonian model). If however, you have no such hypothesis that doesn't just replace one unknown with another, then yes, understand these people know more than you do and shut up. @Snow Globe. I feel as though it is fair to be stern to those who reject reality. I think of conspiracy theorists, growing Earth, and flat Earth proponents in the same way. I am not looking to please anyone's feelings, I am attempting to find how they justify the rejection of science. @Fransda. No, they weren't creationist Christians. Very few scientists are. In order to sway me from thinking this, you need to provide me with some evidence (i.e. a simple poll from scientists, instead of making another groundless claim like you did, like you creationists are OH so good at...
Darwinist:Can you give me what you see as a typical example of evolution? I'm not talking about bacteria resistance to antibiotics or one type of dog changing to another, Us creationist see this as variations and adaptions within a specie. What I'm talking about is solid evidence for one kind of animal changing to another, like for example a land animal changing into a whale. I would like a couple examples if you can muster it, If not one is fine. Also, I would like to add, Could it be a possibility that the reason you hold on so dogmatically to a theory with so little evidence has to do with your pride ? I mean think about it, People have spent thousands upon thousand of dollars and endless hours of study to fill their minds with a theory that's a sham, Could it be a matter of not wanting to end up with egg on your face ? Because if it is I can sympathize with your position, I personally would feel pretty foolish having spent all that time and money on something that's untrue, Or is your mindset simply that because so many so called accredited institutions accept this theory then therefor it must be true ? Or is it just matter of your knowing there's a God but not wanting to bow down to him as one poster stated in answering one of my questions earlier, This person stated and I'm paraphrasing, " Even if God existed I would not bow down to him, I don't bow down to anyone or anything" Is this your reason ? Anyways I put a lot out there I know, You can comment anyway you feel lead to, Of course I'm certain atheist will do that without me having to tell them , Anyways..Thanks for your replies. Merry CHRISTmas ! And God bless ! I wanted to make this disclaimer and let you know that this post is not meant to provoke anyone and I apologize in advance if anyone is offended as I know those who oppose Christians tend to have very tender conscience's, Thanks,
Christians, Please help!!! I'm agnostic but I really do want to believe in God, I want to know him, any help? I don't believe in him and i don't disbelieve either. But i don't want to go to hell if there is. Most of all i want what you true ones have. You just (the nice ones) glow with your words of love and peace with him. I do want the serenity that you people have, the people in real life i know, but could never ask them this. I'm not asking about the sinners prayer, I am asking how can I change my burnt in evolution/science mindset to a God who is there?
Should biologists debate with creationists/intelligent designers? I think it was Stephen Jay Gould who said that debating with creationists gives the impression that there is a genuine scientific controversy over the origins of life. But doesn't this give them a free reign? It seems that intelligent designers are gaining ground, and so in the mindset of most Americans there *is* a genuine scientific controversy. Shouldn't biologists launch a more impassioned defence of evolution and expose these frauds for the unscientific con-artists they are? Sorry I meant to say that SJG recommended snubbing such debates but it's obvious the two answerers understood what I meant. James P: A "theory" in science differs from how people use "theory" in common vernacular. Evolution is a fact. It does not require "faith" to accept a fact.
Did Wesker infect himself with the T-virus, G-virus, Los Plagos parasite, or something completely different? Before answering this, please read Wesker's notes below (Resident Evil - Umbrella Project). Note: Marcus had G and Sergei was a rare compatible host for T virus. Wesker on Differing Mutations If the personality of the host can truly affect the course of the virus manifestation, were does that leave me? I have a theory on Sergei's unique course of evolution. I had always assumed that the variety of effects the virus brings about on its host were mere random mutations. However, witnessing first-hand the effects on Sergei combined with what I know of Marcus's transformation points to a common threat between their outcomes. The host's mindset appears to influence the evolution of the virus. Sergei mutated into a monster whose very body is the picture of suffering as he was ripped apart from the inside by thorns. I can only imagine that his transformation represents the true mindset of the person he was inside. While I have no proof, my intuition tells me that his must be the case.
Why is it because I am a non believer most christians? assume I am a believer in evolution? Is this indicative of their insecure mindset? What is wrong with 'I don't know how the world was created' I do not know and no one will ever know. I am quite happy and content with this. Does anyone else feel this way? Why worry about it, enjoy your time here before you are a piece of meat. mrb a true Christain will not assume anything. Excuse me? They assume the bible to be 100% accurate, in fact sorry, my mistake-they know.. musiclov…There is no such thing as eternity-it's all made up. on_the_m-If I die without christ? Are you joking. Just because I say-I BELIEVE then I will be saved. If you believe that I feel very very sorry for you..
Why Do Most Evolutionist Not Want Science and Religion to Work Hand-In-Hand? How could all these scientist be wrong about a God/Creator of the universe: Francis Bacon (founder of modern science), and so many mathemeticians - Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, Galileo Galilei, Blaise Pascal, Bernhard Reimann, Copernicus, Kepler, Descartes, Gregor Mendel (laid mathematical foundation for genetics!) and Max Planck (quantum physics). One would think that such exacting minds would not have followed religious beliefs without scientific or logical evidence as that was their mindset. And yet they still believed in a God/Creator... So - why couldn't evolution and creation be compatible in some way?
Question about the different mindsets or preconceived ideas of scientists...? before i ask the question i'm not advocating one stance over the other...but just curious what people think... if a scientist has the mindset that there is a God that created everything then all things are possible and that scientists strides to understand the universe and nature in order to learn more about God... if a scientist has the mindset that there is no God and evolution is the only solution for our existence and strides to learn more about the universe and nature in order to gain knowledge... Can a scientist mindset or preconceived ideas affect the way they view scientific evidence? one being more open or closed minded than the other... example...not real but hypothetical...the grand canyon...if evidence were found that the grand canyon was made in 1 year...who would be more open minded to the possibility...i would hope all scientists would be open minded to all possibilities...
Evolutionism vs. Environmentalism -- NOT intended to be inflammatory -- honest opinions please.? First of all, please notice this ? is NOT in "religion & spirituality". Please keep it that way (lol). I may generalize a little bit here -- please forgive. Now, it seems that the same people that are pro-evolution are also deeply concerned about the environment, saving species and so on. If survival of the fittest is the "correct" mindset, why not let species die? Even considering human-environment interaction, saving species that we somehow cause to die out seems to be working against evolutionary ideals by reversing what WILL happen if we let it. To paraphrase McCartney, why not live and let die? Since reason vs. instinct is what makes humans the dominant species, why save others that are destined to die, evolutionarily speaking, by our actions? (I do, by the way, exclude human life and medicine from this conversation.) To expand, why then should we worry about global warming even IF we caused it? Would it not then be the next step in the evolution of our world? Thanks!
Hitler and Dawkins spot the difference? Hitler wanted a perfect race, the "pure" Aryan race, intelligent, blue eyes and blond hair. He was willing to use force to exterminate the rest of humanity such that the Aryan race would survive. Dawkins says that the strongest should survive. The survival of the fittest as Darwin put it. What is the difference between the demonic mindset of Hitler over the demonic mind set of evolution taught in schools today?
Anecdotal question: Why does it seem that folks in R&S only correct the misinformation of creationists? Before you jump on and scream at me: 1. I'm no creationist. 2. I'm a biologist. 3. I accept Neo-Darwinian Evolution. It seems that there is a slew of misinformation about evolution in R&S, and not just by the hands of creationists. Many laymen "evolutionists" here have very queer ideas about what evolution is, how natural selection works, and how evolutionary history actually unfolded. I don't expect laymen to understand everything (or even most everything), but I do find it rather inconsistent when I see R&S regulars castigate creationists for their false information yet don't bother doing so when their fellow evolutionists misspeak about evolution. I worry that this type of derisiveness leads to more misinformation about science. If an *honest* person, who has little background in biology asks a question about evolution that indicates they are coming from a creationist mindset, everyone pounces on them and castigates them for "being so stupid". On top of that, grossly incorrect answers about evolution (many of which contradict each other) are being offered by alleged evolutionists and not being called out, thus furthering the incorrect idea that biological evolution by natural selection is a bunk theory. Are you too afraid to correct even those in your own camp when they are wrong? I'm speaking about those who *do* know, those who have studied biology in depth. I agree that questions about evolution belong in the biology category, but when a question nonetheless ends up in R&S, it's our responsibility to make sure that the asker is given the most credible answer. If that means you need to defer to someone else with more knowledge instead of paraphrasing, or using an analogy that might not be functional, then do so.
Governments and religious beliefs? Many claim that governments should be run apart from any religious beliefs. I am going to make a couple of base points about this then open this up to the answers board. 1. Without religious beliefs, what is there to keep the government's view in line? With a religious system, there tends to be clear line of moral guidelines. What guides these morals if there is no religious system? If people are naturally decent, you must give sufficient evidence for that claim. 2. A follow-up point from point one. If it is the unguided majority that guides the societal morale, then what prevents the 'evolution' of the majority thought to end up with a society where the majority believes murder, rape, thievery, etc. is alright? A sort of anarchist mindset, if you will - survival of the fittest. I realize this question has probably already been posted. Please don't waste time criticizing me for not wanting to use the search function - I have the freedom to ask the Q: again. Thoughts? May I state that those annoyed by my reposting the question are equally free to ignore it and not grant it an answer. Those who are so annoyed by me re-asking a question, and then choose to answer it, I regard as masochists. Let me clarify that I do not inherently take a stance in asking this question. I'm simply interested in hearing input, and set some basic, raw points to move the discussion beyond yes and no kind of answers. I did pay attention in history class - I'm just avoiding giving too much of my input because I want to see what answers turn up first.
The "racism is natural" argument? When people argue that racism is natural, do you think they really cant stand other races of people due to biology/evolution, or are they just saying that to justify their hate? I know that it is natural for humans to have a preference for their own race (generally) rather it be conscious or subconscious, but in the multicultural US is there really an excuse? We are exposed to different races all the time. I can understand hanging around people of your own race and having a preference for them, but is it really necessary to be downright rude to people of other races? I feel like people who believe this and hate other races due to this mindset are "trying" to be more primitive without even know it. If you realize you are doing it, and you actually "try" to act like that then it's not natural anymore right? Maybe I should ask this in the psych section?
Recommend me some music? My favorite bands are: Mastodon Between The Buried And Me Slipknot Dimmu Borgir Tool Avenged Sevenfold Mr. Bungle Cradle Of Filth Iron Maiden Megadeth As I Lay Dying System Of A Down Gwar Coheed And Cambria Volbeat Van Halen The Who Vader Soilwork In Flames Sepultura Savatage Dragonforce Rush Led Zeppelin Rise Against Ratt Rammstein Pantera Rainbow Dio Rainbowdragoneyes A Day To Remember R.E.M. Queen Porcupine Tree Primus Protest The Hero Poison Pearl Jam Cream Eric Clapton Ozzy Osbourne Black Sabbath The Outlaws Oceano Opeth Oasis Night Ranger Nightwish Nirvana Eminem Lil' Wayne Johnny Cash Nicky Minaj My Chemical Romance Mushroomhead Muse Mudvayne Motley Crue Modern Day Escape Falling In Reverse Escape The Fate The Misfits Mindset Evolution In Her Memory Metallica Meshuggah Megadeth Mayhem Matchbox 20 Santana Lupe Fiasco Kid Cudi Linkin Park Lightspeed Champion Lamb Of God Killswitch Engage Rage Against The Machine Lacuna Coil Lady Gaga Kiss Korn Kansas Journey Job For A Cowboy Iwrestledabearonce In This Moment The Human Abstract Hollywood Undead Here Comes The Kraken Hatebreed Green Day Gorefest Glamour Of The Kill Aiden Five Finger Death Punch Fear Factory Faith No More Extreme Evanescence Epica Elton John Dream Theater Drist Dover The Doors Dog Fashion Disco Divine Heresy Disturbed Din Dethklok Deep Purple Decapitated Death Dead Kennedy's Darkest Hour Danzig Dark Tranquility Circus Maximus Chimaira Children Of Nova Children Of Bodom Cattle Decapitation Cannibal Corpse Butthole Surfers Bullet For My Valentine Bruce Sprinsteen Bowling For Soup Boston Bon Jovi Blind Guardian Blessthefall Black Veil Brides Behemoth August Burns Red Atreyu Atheist Asking Alexandria Arch Enemy Andrea Bocceli Anarchy Club Alter Bridge All That Remains So yeah, I pretty much like everything. Please don't recommend bands that are even somewhat popular. I'm looking for something thats underground and unheard of. Thanks! I don't necessarily listen to underground bands, I'm just looking for undergrounds bands. Something unheard of.
Do you find religion ignorant? I do not see the appeal of simply believing in something blindly. Don't those who are religious feel somewhat embarrassed by how disjointed, manipulated and hypocritical the whole 'word of god' truly is? Do you ever research your practice, to know its history and its evolution, or do you just ignore historical evidence and sight verses from your cut-n-paste bible as fact? Is it fear that makes one believe in such a mindset, or is it something else?
How can people believe science and religion are compatible? Yes, you can accept scientific theories while being religious, but at a fundamental level, the two contradict. Science is about observing the world and explaining it using these observations, whereas religion is about believing things that were passed down from past generations, which aren't necessarily based on reality. Religions don't use the scientific method to prove themselves, and come from a time period when modern science was nonexistent and superstition ruled. In my opinion, the anti-evolution mindset of many American Christians is a manifestation of this rudimentary conflict (albeit perhaps unknowingly), which is similar to how in the past, many religious figures fought hard against scientists at that time (Copernicus, Galileo, etc.). @guy with random characters for his name: They were highly advanced technologically for THE TIME, not scientifically. Derek: Yeah, it's funny how it's always scientists who are insisting it's true. Darn scientists! @mopar Mike: You can hold two contradicting ideas in your head at once without realizing it. That proves nothing.
Please answer this christians? okay so before i ask this if you answer with correcting my grammar or spelling i pretty much owned you... anyways on to the questions. where did your god come from? why isnt the big bang possible to you? what if the particle (not god) that made that bang explode has always been here alpha and omega? how is noahs ark possible? he could not get every animal and INSECT in the world or maybe he just got a few animals but wait...you dont believe in evolution so if he got only a few animals they could go through evolution in your mindset. and who says YOUR god is the right one why dont you believe in jews beliefs huh? in your mindset im going to hell why does it matter? if im tortured....im dead anyways hahaha ha! yall couldnt answer
How would life be like when we perfected our group consciousness? If we look at bees and ants, and many other animals we can see they have a group network or consciousness that they use. If we can set aside our exploration of the individual ego, and focus on the formation and evolution of the group consciousness, what will life be like? If everyone is living with a mindset of - what will benefit the humanity as whole more than just myself, what will stay the same, what will change, how will the world be like when we perfected this?
Recommend me some music? My favorite bands are: Mastodon Between The Buried And Me Slipknot Dimmu Borgir Tool Avenged Sevenfold Mr. Bungle Cradle Of Filth Iron Maiden Megadeth As I Lay Dying System Of A Down Gwar Coheed And Cambria Volbeat Van Halen The Who Vader Soilwork In Flames Sepultura Savatage Dragonforce Rush Led Zeppelin Rise Against Ratt Rammstein Pantera Rainbow Dio Rainbowdragoneyes A Day To Remember R.E.M. Queen Porcupine Tree Primus Protest The Hero Poison Pearl Jam Cream Eric Clapton Ozzy Osbourne Black Sabbath The Outlaws Oceano Opeth Oasis Night Ranger Nightwish Nirvana Eminem Lil' Wayne Johnny Cash Nicky Minaj My Chemical Romance Mushroomhead Muse Mudvayne Motley Crue Modern Day Escape Falling In Reverse Escape The Fate The Misfits Mindset Evolution In Her Memory Metallica Meshuggah Megadeth Mayhem Matchbox 20 Santana Lupe Fiasco Kid Cudi Linkin Park Lightspeed Champion Lamb Of God Killswitch Engage Rage Against The Machine Lacuna Coil Lady Gaga Kiss Korn Kansas Journey Job For A Cowboy Iwrestledabearonce In This Moment The Human Abstract Hollywood Undead Here Comes The Kraken Hatebreed Green Day Gorefest Glamour Of The Kill Aiden Five Finger Death Punch Fear Factory Faith No More Extreme Evanescence Epica Elton John Dream Theater Drist Dover The Doors Dog Fashion Disco Divine Heresy Disturbed Din Dethklok Deep Purple Decapitated Death Dead Kennedy's Darkest Hour Danzig Dark Tranquility Circus Maximus Chimaira Children Of Nova Children Of Bodom Cattle Decapitation Cannibal Corpse Butthole Surfers Bullet For My Valentine Bruce Sprinsteen Bowling For Soup Boston Bon Jovi Blind Guardian Blessthefall Black Veil Brides Behemoth August Burns Red Atreyu Atheist Asking Alexandria Arch Enemy Andrea Bocceli Anarchy Club Alter Bridge All That Remains The Faceless Rose Funeral Whitechapel Nile Hour Of Penance Fleshgod Apocalypse Scar Symmetry Napalm Death Cryptopsy So yeah, mainly metal, rock, and some rap and hip hop/pop. Please go through the whole list if you can, I can almost guaruntee the band you'll recommend is on there. Thanks in advance, and good luck.. Haha
What do you think of the uproar 2012 lineup? In case you don't know it the lineup is... MAIN STAGE: Shinedown Godsmack Staind Papa Roach Adelitas Way SMALL STAGE: P.O.D. Fozzy Deuce Redlight King Mindset Evolution Candlelight Red In This Moment Thousand Foot Krutch Personally I like it, not as much as last years, but i'm still going. I honestly think POD should be on the main stage instead of Adelitas way. Whats your guy's opinion? @That metal guy why don't you like nu metal bands?